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Obverse 1

1838 - 1860

Right from the start of Victoria's reign,1838, it appears

as if there were problems with all of the colon dots

after D: G: BRITANNIAR : and especially after F: D:

This page concentrates only on those of F: D: 

As to their rarity or importance as varieties - who knows ?

I would suggest that none of these varieties add to

the value of the coin and can be treated as just

interesting repairs !

These are the ones I have come across so far !

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All are Obverse 1 - with colon dots - type A to Ar

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I have listed as 

Type A - 2 colon dots after F: D: (Align to back of bust)

Type Aa - 2 colon dots after F: & 3 after D:. (Align as per Type A)

Type Ab  - 2 colon dots after F: D: (New alignments after D:)

Type Ac  - 2 colon dots after F: D: (New alignments after D:)

Type Ad  - 2 colon dots after F: D: (New alignments after D:)

Type Ae  - 2 colon dots after F: & 3 after D.: 

Type Af  - 2 colon dots after F:. & 3 after D:: 

Type Ag  - 2 colon dots after F.: & 3 after D.: 

Type Ah  - 2 colon dots after F.: & 3 after D.: 

Type Ai  - 3 colon dots after F.: & 3 after D.: 

Type Aj  - 2 colon dots after F & 4 colon dots after D::

Type Ak  - 3 colon dots after F.: & 4 after D:: 

Type Am  - 3 colon dots after F:: & 3 colon dots after D:: 

Type An  - 3 colon dots after F:: & 3 colon dots after D:: 

Type Ap  - 2 colon dots after F: D: (front of D below bust)

Type As  - 2 colon dots after F: & 3 after D.: (1 dot on D !)

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These varieties are listed for information purposes only

There are probably more !

 

   

ST (1838-60) - Type A

2 colon dots after F: D:

Align to Victoria's back

ST (1838-60) - Type Aa

2 colon dots after F: 

3 colon dots after D:.

   

ST (1838-60) - Type Ab

2 colon dots after F: D:

Different dot alignment

 ST (1838-60) A - The lower colon dot after the D: is weaker or smaller in size to the one closest 

                           to the border. Note that the colon dots after the D: line up to the corner of the 

                           back of Victoria's bust. [As seen on an 1840 3d]

ST (1838-60) Aa - The 'main' colon dots are similar to Type A and align to the back of

                            Victoria's bust - except now there is an extra 'small' colon dot outside the 

                            main colon dot after D:. (furthest from the border teeth and closest to the

                            back of Victoria's bust). [As seen on an 1847 3d].

ST (1838-60) Ab - There are 2 colon dots after F: D: and the colon dots after D: now do not  

                            align with the back of Victoria's bust but point just to the left of her back. 

                                  [As seen on an 1856 3d].

 

ST (1838-60) - Type Ac

2 colon dots after F: D:

Different dot alignment

   

ST (1838-60) - Type Ad

2 colon dots after F: D:

Different dot alignment

   

ST (1838-60) Type Ae -

2 colon dots after F: 

3 colon dots after D.:

ST (1838-60) Ac - The lower colon dot after D: (the one furthest from the edge) has been 

                            entered slightly further up from the base of the D. The colon dots after D:

                            are in a similar  alignment as per Type Ab to the back of Victoria's bust but

                            those colon dots are now closer together than on Type Ab. The lower colon 

                            dot after D: is now slightly further from the back of Victoria's bust.

                            [As seen on an 1856 3d].

ST (1838-60) Ad - The lower colon dot after D: (the one furthest from the edge) has been

                            entered slightly below the base of the D. The colon dots after D: are in 

                            a similar alignment as per Type Ab & Ac to the back of Victoria's bust

                            but those colon dots  are now further apart than on Type Ab & Ac.

                            The lower colon dot after D: is now closer to the back of Victoria's bust. 

                            [As seen on an 1856 3d].

ST (1838-60) Ae - 2 colon dots after F: & 3 colon dots after D.: of F: D: 

                            After the D there is small dot just before the colon dots (lower & before)

                                 [As seen on an 1838 3d].

 

   

   

ST (1838-60) Type Af -

2 colon dots after F:

3 colon dots after D.:

ST (1838-60)Type Ag -

2 colon dots after F.: 

3 colon dots after D.:

ST (1838-60) Type Ah -

2 colon dots after F:.

3 colon dots after D::

ST (1838-60) Af -  2 colon dots after F: & 3 colon dots after D.: of F: D: 

                            After the D there is small dot just before the colon dots (lower & before) as 

                            per Type Ae but now the lower dot is larger and lower.

                            The 'extra' dot is below the lower colon dot and aligns with the back

                            of Victoria's truncated back !  [Seen on an 1847 3d].

ST (1838-60) Ag -  There are 2 colon dots after F.: the part dot is before and slightly

                             below the lower colon dot.

                             There are 3 colon dots after D.: The 'extra' dot is just before and below 

                             the lower colon dot and aligns with the back of Victoria's truncated back !

ST (1838-60) Ah -  2 colon dots after F:.3 colon dots after D:: of F: D: 

                            After the F there is a tiny part colon dot sticking out of the top right colon dot.  

                            After the D there is small dot just before the colon dots (lower & before) as 

                            per Type Ae but now there is also a small part dot sticking out of the top

                            colon dot (just above and to the left - closest to the border).

                            The 'extra' dot is just below the lower colon dot and aligns with the back

                            of Victoria's truncated back !  [As seen on an 1838 3d].

 

   

ST (1838-60) Type Ai -

3 colon dots after F.: 

3 colon dots after D.:

ST (1838-60) Type Aj -

2 colon dots after F: 

4 colon dots after D::

ST (1838-60) Type Ak -

3 colon dots after F.: 

4 colon dots after D::

ST (1838-60) Ai -  There are 3 colon dots after F.: the 'extra' dot is before and slightly

                             below the lower colon dot.

                             There are 3 colon dots after D.: The 'extra' dot is just below the lower

                             colon dot and aligns with the back of Victoria's truncated back !

ST (1838-60) Aj -  There are 2 colon dots after F: and 4 colon dots after D:: 

                            The 'extra' dots are very small colon dots and aligns with the back

                            of Victoria's truncated back !  [As seen on an 1838 3d].

ST (1838-60) Ak -  There are 3 colon dots after F.: and 4 colon dots after D:: 

                             As per Type Aj The 'extra' dots are very small colon dots and aligns 

                             with the back of Victoria's truncated back ! [As seen on an 1843 3d].

                             The 'extra' dot  after F is just before and below the lower colon dot

                             The 'extra' dot  after D is before and below the lower colon dot and 

                             there are 2 half colon dots before the lower colon dot.                            

                             

   

    

ST (1838-60) Type Am -

3 colon dots after F:: 

3 colon dots after D::

ST (1845) Type An -

Similar to Am

 3 colon dots after F:: 

3 colon dots after D::

ST (1858) Type Ap -

2 colon dots after F: D:

colon dots at odd angles

Front of D below back

ST (1838-60) Am -  There are 3 colon dots after F:: and 3 colon dots after D:: 

                              Very similar to Aj & Ak - but with the half dots in different places.   

                             The 'extra' dot  is before F and the half dot is below the lower colon dot.

                             The 'extra' dot  is before D and the half dot is below the lower colon dot.

ST 1845 An - here are 3 colon dots after F:: and 3 colon dots after D:: 

                    Very similar to Am - but with the half dots in different places.   

                    The 'extra' dot  is before F and the half dot is below the lower colon dot.

                    The 'extra' dot  is before D and the half dot is attached to lower colon dot.

ST 1858 Ap - The colon dot, after F, closest to the edge, is now very close to the F making 

                    the lower colon appear further from the F. The colon dots appear to lean forward.

                    The opposite can be seen after D as the colon dot, closest to the edge, is now 

                    away from D and the inner colon dot is closer to the D. The colon dots appear to

                    lean backward.

                   *The front part of the D is now in alignment just under Victoria's truncation

                     back whereas in the other earlier dies the front of the D is just before Victoria's back. 

                     See earlier images A to Ak.

                  

ST (1859) Type Ar -

2 colon dots after F:

2 colon dots D:

   

ST (1857) Type As -

2 colon dots after F:

3 colon dots D.

2 of dots on D !

ST 1858 Ar - The colon dot, after F, closest to the truncation, is closer to the F and the

                    colon dot close to the border teeth is further from the F. The colon dots appear 

                    to lean backwards. The opposite to that as shown on Ap. The colon dots after 

                    D: also lean backwards.                   

                   *The front part of the D is now in alignment just under Victoria's truncation

                     back whereas in the other earlier dies the front of the D is just before Victoria's back. 

                     See earlier images A to Ak.

ST 1857 As - This is a bit of a mess by a repairer - there is an extra colon dot ON the front

                    section of the D ! The colon dot nearest the border is very close to the D and 

                    the one furthest from the border is partly on the D !

                    *Sorry about the picture quality but it is not one of my coins it was sent to me

                    - courtesy of BP. [Seen on an 1857 3d]

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