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1845 Reverses

GR 1845 A - Rev. A   GR 1845 A - Rev. A

GR 1845 B - Rev. B  

GR 1845 B - Rev. B

1845 - No examples of the 'broken' or open C have been found for this date

           However, Reverse B has been left available if an example is found.


1845 Date varieties

All of the 1845 groats appear to have the 18 of the date in a fixed position. 

The position of the 45 can vary slightly as can the size of the font.

* Previously from 1840 to 1844 all of the 4's (bar 1 ?) had a T-bar tail.

GR 1845 - Type a - date

GR 1845 - Type b - date




GR 1845 - Type c - Date

Date: Type c - 5

Date - 3

GR 1845 - Date: Type a - The top of the 4 is flat or flattish. The 4 has a slant-up tail

                              The 5 has a flattish top bar.

                              The 5 appears to have a large 'ball' at the tail end but that could be because

                               the coin is worn and the 5 is slightly squashed.

                              The 4 and 5 are a smaller font than that used for date type B.

GR 1845 - Date: Type b - The top of the 4 is more pointed The 4 has a slant-up tail

                              The 5 has a slightly curved up tip to the top bar. * A small 'ball' at the end !?

                              The 4 & 5 are a larger font than that used for date type A. The 18 could be larger as well.

GR 1845 - Date: Type c - Pointed top 4 - with a slant-up tail. 5 - top bar slant-up slightly at end tip.

                              The '45' numerals are slightly larger than the '18'. Good base alignment.

                              The 1 8 & 4 are all double struck.

                              The 5 appears as if it could be struck over a 3 as there is a fine line

                              running from just in front of the end tip of the 5 down to the top

                              rounded curve of the 5.

However, I would suggest that the 1845 is not struck over an 1843 for several 

Reasons. (1)  All the 4 fonts used in 1843 have t-bar style ends to the 4.

                          None have the slant-up tail 4 font as been for 1845.

                   (2)  All of the 3 fonts are rounded (as per picture) in 1843. 

                   (3)  There are no examples of a straight back top to a 3 for 1843.

                          For there to be a 3 under the 5 it would have to be a flat top 3 !

                          Why would a flat top 3 be used around the 1845 numerals ?  Very unlikely !

                          The 5 does look remarkably similar to the 1865 over 3 Penny

                          & Halfpenny varieties.

                  (4)   If it were a 3 a bit of the centre bar should show.

This is a very unusual variety and could in the future be written up in variety books as a

5 over 3 - when it probably isn't !

What is it ?

I am not sure. Further examination on this date would need to be made.

It is possible that it is a die crack in a most unusual place as there is a thin die crack

from the 'ball' end of the 5 vertically upwards to the upright bat of the 5. 

Whatever the explanation - it still rates as being an unusual and consistent variety

as more than one example of this variety has been noted

*  1845 is also a fairly illusive date especially in top grade.

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