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GB GROATS 1836 - 1888
Information on the "BRITANNIA(R)"
a diameter of 16mm (the same as for the silver 3d)
is thicker (than the silver 3d) and has a milled edge.
weighs 1.9 grams (The silver 3d 1.3 grams)
obverse die for the William IV (1836 & 1837) series
the Victoria Young head series (1838 to 1862 [Proof])
the same as that used for the silver 3d of that period.
obverse die for the 1888 Groat is unique to the
as the legend has D: G: BRITANNIAR
as the 3d has DEI GRATIA BRITT:
The Maundy 4d is slightly wider at 17mm and plain edge
weight is the same at 1.9 grams
the UK (England) the MP Joseph Hume campaigned
the re-introduction of the 4d (Groat) last made for
in the period of 'Hammered' coin in the mid 1600
counting the Maundy 4d) as it was the Hansom cab
for the shortest journey. This coin was not popular
the Hansom cab drivers as they had been used to
offered a 6d for the fare and the 2d change
quite often give as a "Tip" as they generally
that they had no change !
coin became known as a "Joey" (after Joseph Hume).
time after the Groat was withdrawn in the UK in
the term 'Joey' became known as the '3d Joey'
early Groats we struck for use in the UK,
they were extremely popular and used
in the West Indies and British Guiana
currency was in short supply and the Groat
valued the same as a "Bitt" or 8 Cents (W. Indies)
1/4 Guilder (B. Guiana).
4d fell out of favour in 1845, in the UK, due to the
of the silver 3d into circulation. The 3d
1834 to 1844 were basically for Colonial use.
size being in the same for both coins was
factor for the decline in use of the 4d in the UK.
1888 Groat (last date) was made for exclusive use
British Guinea. In 1891 British Guiana had their own
pence coin made with the re-introduction of Young
Victoria (coronet head) on the obverse and
Guyana & West Indies legend on the reverse,
a crowned Four Pence in the centre.
William IV 1831 - 1837
1836 - 2 Obverse dies
1837 - 3 Obverse dies
Obv.Slight indent on neck
lower grades see our Silver bullion section
Victoria [Young head /
Jubilee head] 1838 - 1888
1838 to 1841 most obverses I have
have an extra colon dot -
the 2 colon dots after F
the extra dot is missing or unclear
an extra colon dot (below & between)
D colon dots.
one with the D is more pronounced.
D has also been seen doubled in 1839
with a hint of tone
Bright - lightly polished
Obv. A couple of tiny hair-line
on Victoria's cheek & hair by her
1839 - 3 date types
picture above 1838)
Choice - light
tone around legend
1840 - date varieties
Die flaw through
Numerals slightly doubled
is a scarce and elusive date and is
missing from most dealers and
lists. Over the last 15 years I have
many of the examples that have
on the market. They range from
to Poor (but with a clear date).
now list this collection below
lists a variety for 1841.
"small "N" in PENCE."
I cannot or have not found in
20 years of looking.
feel that this variety seems unlikely as
would require a completely new
die with this legend font to have
been cut and used !
of the "N" appear small but in fact all
letters in PENCE align to the border
in every example seen from 1836 to
as the same reverse die seems to
been used with only the date
and font being changed.
I would be very pleased if someone
show me an example of this die
a smaller "N" than those on the
normal reverse !
1841 - date varieties
- Scarce date
around legend - Scarce date
toned - Scarce date
dark tone - Scarce date
flaw Bright - Scarce date
Bright - Scarce date
- Scarce date
hairline scratch Scarce date
Massive die cracks
Date: The 4
has a triangular tail end !
1 over inverted 1 (Roman I)
1842 - date varieties
1843 - date varieties
1844 - date varieties
44 Choice pale green tone
44 Bright - hint of pale tone
Date: Large 44
Date: Large 44 - Slightly scuffy
1845 - date
1846 - date
Dark and slightly pitted
1847 - date
1848 - varieties
New variety - Very Rare
New variety - Very Rare !?
1849 - 3 date types
B - Rev. 1st E of PENCE double struck
Date: Pointed over flat
top 4 & slant up tail
1851 - date
1852 - date
1853 - Proof
1854 - varieties
1855 - date varieties
1857 - Proof
1862 - Proof
1888 - date varieties